Thursday, October 26, 2006

Just plain HOT!

Halle Berry and the long, cool drink of water that is her new man. She looks good. He looks good. You can't tell from this one but in most of their photos they're grinning and he holds her all loving and protective like. He's keeping his mouth shut about their business and seems to be dealing well with the "Oh my God I'm dating Halle Berry who's better looking and more famous than me" hype. He hasn't hit her or cheated on her as yet (as far as we know). GODDAMN HALLE! I'm crossing my fingers my toes and my eyes for you with this one. You deserve it!

75 comments:

Icahwait* said...

Like you reading all the celeb mags lol.
She looks good, effortless good.

Hottie Hottie said...

Girl! Ah sick with it. Morning lovey.

Island Spice said...

Ah Ms. Halle. Pretty fuh so. I wish her all the best. BUT I dunno how I feel about a man who goes out in public with his shirt tucked in and no belt!! tsk! tsk!

Hottie Hottie said...

Hello?! I would take him any day over a man who does dress to the hilt but cuffing me in my head so much that I eventually lose my hearing on one side eh!

saucydiva said...

For such a beautiful woman she has had the worst luck with men. I hope this one is a keeper, and yuh know if he turns out to be decent how that will reflect on all the BLACK men she dated before :S

Prettidolli said...

Morning Hottie Hots,

I've been saying this for years. This fabulous lady needed to be with a WHITE MAN a long time ago! His name is Gabriel Aubry, he is a model, and he is a flipping foine freaking fantastic Frenchie. Yuh likey meh alliteration gyel? LoL. Halle is one of those women who is a PRIME cut above the rest and can't be with just any ole hardback, rusty behind n*igga. YES, ah said it! Black men DO NOT deserve Halle. She's given them so many chances and they repeatedly play the arse wid she. JEALOUSY and ENVY are a b*tch, but men does suffer from it too! Black men will take a dumpy woman of another race and treat her like a queen, but will easily ill treat their own Black women....DISGUSTING and DISGRACEFUL!
Gabriel has class, panache, and he's a refined EUROPEAN, not the inbred, slackjawed, Confederate hillbilly yokel fare that America has to offer. He doesn't have to study anyone. For God's sake, de mayn White nah? Dem does run de whole damn entiyah worl'! He's young, fit, sexy, paid, and pompasetting wid de foiinest of foiine BLACK 'ooman pon he arm. Mon dieu, de sommabitch is en la ciel...in HEAVEN! CON las estrellas y Jesus....Imagine dey chirren? Oh gossssh! :o

White men does WELL and know what dey doing. Yuh BEST BELIEVE if is any woman of another race pon he arm, he strutting wid de BESS!
Halle and Gabriel.
Iman and David Bowie.
Sir Michael Caine and Shakira.
The list goes on and on.

As for Black men:
Look at Cuba Gooding and he wifey..
Most NBA players.
Tiki Barber and his spouse.
Clarence Thomas and spouse.
Etc., etc., etc.
I wish more elegant, accomplished Black ladies would exercise their options for success in love.

Although Halle lost points with me after her handling of her auto accident, I'm so very pleased to see her at ease for once. GO 'HEAD HALLE CHILE! Leff Wesley Snipes. Yuh cyah see he in de dark anyways.......Allyuh so called "bruddahs" tek dat...Halle nah bizness wid allyuh anymore.

'Bye 4 me Hots...Dais meh smallpiece. Back 2 work...LOLOL!

Karabana said...

Yeah, same thoughts as you HH, I thought when I saw this pic, aw, I want it to work out for her, she sooo deserves it after her stupid cheatin husband.

Hottie Hottie said...

Morning Dolli, wha now Saucy. Yes, yuh kyah get much better than a beautiful, refined, rich, Versace model. And I didn't want to call no name but Wesley Snipes is a real piece of shite. And then after all the shit she went through with him, he had the gall to say he doh date black woman again because they too difficult, he only want Asian woman. Steups. Dais why they waiting to throw he ass in jail for tax evasion. Anywya, I personally doh believe one race does treat women better than another, but I doh understand people (mostly women)who does say they only dating black/white/Indian/Chinese man. It done so hard to find somebody who worth yuh time, why impose an extra restriction on yourself? Me, personally, I like Capt. Kirk. If I find a GREEN man that doing it for me ah taking it.

Karabana said...

Prettidolli.... yikes, truly - God luv ya gyrl, you bring up the white man comparison... Well, this could be interesting...
But, Sir Michael Caine and Shakira... huh? When??

Hottie Hottie said...

Nah Karabana, not that Sharika. His wife is mixed. I think she's from Suriname, not sure, and her name is Shakira also.

Prettidolli said...

Michael Caine's wife is Shakira Baksh, she is mixed, but is primarily of Indo-Guyanese descent. She is a former Miss Guyana and is very lovely.
I call Mr.Wesley name eh, so wha? Such a LOSER. Tax problems eh? What goes around comes around...Karma is a bizzzzotch!

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"Anyway, I personally doh believe one race does treat women better than another, but I doh understand people (mostly women)who does say they only dating black/white/Indian/Chinese man. It done so hard to find somebody who worth yuh time, why impose an extra restriction on yourself? If I find a GREEN man that doing it for me ah taking it."

No Hottie, I'm NOT saying that a particular race treats women better than another. I'm saying from MY observation (this is from observing patterns with Black male colleagues, social group members, etc. of mine) that these men will worship the dust from the feet of a woman from ANOTHER and ANY race but disrespect their own. I find that both APALLING and DESPICABLE! I've even overheard things like the sistahs are only good for the burdenous aspects, like toiling to put them thru professional school, b/c sistahs are hard working. But once these men have ARRIVED, the sistahs HAVE TO GO b/c they need a real trophy woman from another race. I'm NOT lying. And I have a BLACK man but does have tuh beat de White ones orf wid a stick AND ah can o' Mace! :o

Hots, you'll take green, I'll take a polkadotted and checkerboarded man if he's a GOOD ONE. I've dated practically every colour, creed, and race so dais no issue for me. I also believe that the man does make the clothes, the clothes don't make the man. ;) Andre 3000 anyone?
My issue is when certain men make the distinction to preferentially honor women of other races and to dishonor their own. I cyan go for that! Halle seems to have always chosen insecure, little pick-up stick boys who could not handle her beauty, talent, and success. I suspect this wouldn't be a problem for Gabe as he "appears" comfortable in his own shoes....
AND he's younger than she.
AND he gets excited at his photo shoots when the photogs want more pics of HER than HIM. Dais ah secure person who loves her. Allyuh see EBenet's face when she won the Oscar? Steups........
I'm happy if Halle's happy.

Karabana gyul, I doh pay no tax fuh meh mout'. I does say whatever in de jail ah have to say. Dais it!

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saucydiva said...

Hottie I think Dolli has a point, of all the "black" men I have dated, been friends with or liked at some point or the other they all have issues, especially with sucesful, strong, independent women. The ones in Trinidad, worse yet, they have some money and they feel they rule the world and all women after them so they can treat you like crap And they also figure they too good NOT to share themselves with June,Mary and Theresa so you better believe yuh getting horn untop of the stingyness and self absorbtion.

I have no preference per se, but I do like a lil mix up fella,especially the Trini mix up with all races thrown in for good measure. So yuh know I have had very few "boyfriends" who were darker in complexion, and the ones who were well they fit Dolli's stereotype to a T.

Suffice it to say I did not marry a black man, which has it's own set of issues in this colour biased/obsessed Trinidad and Tobago where everybody does look shocked that I married a "white man" when he eh even "white" really.I doh know how my "bi-racial" children go make out nah :S

Hottie Hottie said...

Dolli girl, is the same thing up here. In fact, I think it might be worse. There are almost NO role models who are not white up here, no lie. You hardly ever see different races on tv, in magazines, in papers. In fact, you can read the papers for weeks and not see a black, Indian, Asian person. I don't know if this is the reason why you see black men running down white women up here. It may have something to do with it but it can't be the only explaination, since you don't see men of other races doing it so. And is the characters yuh does see some of them with eh. And they walking with they wife and watchinig you. And the thing is, when they looking to horn the white woman, is a black woman they doing it with!

Hottie Hottie said...

I didn't see his face nah Dolli. How it was?

Hottie Hottie said...

That is true yuh know Sauce. Plenty - not all, let's be fair, but a good bit - have problems and issues they have to deal with - and want you to accept! Me, I love a red man. And I like Indian fellas bad too. DEM does treat you like a QUEEN, without the cocaine totee mentality plenty black men does have. I eh know WHAT I do Indian man. And Sauce, doh mind Trinidad have it's little hang ups about mix and race, we no way near as bad as other countries out there. Unless you have had particularly bad experiences? Is the hubby from Trini?

Prettidolli said...

Hottie, De mayn face did well and screw up and he did well and gi' she some cut eye. Like a premenstrual b*tch ah tell yuh!
A PRE-MENSTRUALLLLLLLL BYOTTTTCH! Everywhey else was thunderous applause, but she OWN MAN SELF nah happy fuh she. Is like de gyul did rhel paying fuh love...Even after de divorce till ALL NOW! Yuh nah watch he so-called career after that? I call it popular by association. When de assoc. finish, so did de popularity. Dat 'ooman RHEL RUN TINGS eh? He's anuddah:
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Hottie, I does haffi run from de Indian man too! Dem some sweet lovahbois eh? Ah know allyuh does watch Bollywood. Dem fellahs does know 'bout wicked romancing de stone, I tellyuh wha! Dey would wine up and gi'yuh de whispahs and de tweet nothings in yuh ear. Dey does dance in meadow and sing pon hilltop, all kindah sh*t...Indian man does behave like dey de CURRY KINGFISH self! (Wey Manicou...LOL!) De only issue I does have wid dem is when dey turn stalker or start checking fuh Gramazone when de lubbing ovah. I doh mean to offend, but REALLY! x(

I feel like I should hit into Richmond Hill.....

Prettidolli said...

SAUCY HOL' ON GYEL! I coming ovah by u when tings kool dong lil' bit fuh meh.

Lawwwd, I couldn't have said it any bettah meh self:
"Of all the "black" men I have dated, been friends with or liked at some point or the other they all have issues, especially with sucesful, strong, independent women. The ones in Trinidad, worse yet, they have some money and they feel they rule the world and all women after them so they can treat you like crap And they also figure they too good NOT to share themselves with JEAN, DINAH, and CLEMENTINA so you better believe yuh getting horn untop of the stingyness and self absorption."

Sauce, women like you, Hots, and mehself would send dem running head ovah heels and heltah pon skeltah. I REFUSE to deal wid dey shyte. Ah mouthy & sexxxxy baddd lonnng time yuh know? LOLOLOLLLL! (Relax, allyuh ah joking.)

Island Spice said...

Wait. I go one meeting and all dis bacchanal does ensue...
This race issue is a big old deal yes. I mix up mix up and I have a REAL weakness for the dark chocolate ones but unnu right .. if they have a degree and / or a job they tend to think they's the shiznit.
The best loving an tender care i ever get is from a 'white' guy.
Anyway this stuff could take up a whole blog of its own yes.
@ Saucy: Girl.. I encourage the mix up. We should keep at it till everyone mix wid someting. Teach ur child to be proud .. and saucy! .. and everything will be fine.

Island Spice said...

PS. I have me googling di man. Yes he is fine. No arguement there. Now I will assume he forgot his belt after the quickie they just had!

Hottie Hottie said...

True girl?! And imagine she have to pay him alimony

saucydiva said...

No Hottie my husband is born and bred Trini,he mix up but people does say he "white" I guess is "Trini White" they mean to say; yuh know Syrian,Chinee,Spanish anybody with light skin and straight hair in Trini are labeled as "white".Warrior like me says he looks like her friend from South America...I can't remember the country, but she thinks he has that type of "latin look".

Anyways, from my experience the colourism in Trinidad is very evident. If you look at the advertisements, apart from the ad's with black people doing a parody and speaking comedic dialect,most of the people featured are light skinned with curly/straight hair. I mean look at the models they use for Carnival to show off the costumes and you see what I mean.

When you go to certain stores and shops in certain areas if you are light skinned you get treated differently from another darker skinned patron. And though the industries such as the bank have changed from the 70's when only people of a certain hue worked in those esatblishments, I know many people who were hired in private companies because they have the right look, name or complexion.

Imagine my sister in law got her job, paying $7000.00 a month with NO qualifications for the post because her employer wanted his office "outfitted" with employees of a certain "look". I am NOT lying when I say this, but there are no black employees where she works and she works in the oil industry. We are in 2006, not 1970 people!

I also think that alot of the young girls growing up don't like their dark skin, they want to look like Beyonce and Tyra with the long hair and tan complexions.There is a girl who works with me who is a very dark shade of brown and she said growing up she hated her complexion because she was called "tar baby" and "blackie". It is only NOW that she has come to terms that black is beautiful in Trinidad because sometimes it seems "if you ain't red yuh dead".

Thankfully we have Wendy and by extension Kenisha Thom, who are examples of beautiful black, successful Trini women. But it still infuriates me to see photos of Wendy where she is photoshopped to look lighter than she really is. I remember seeing one magazine cover of her and she looked my complexion :S

Finally, I have had many people say they were "discriminated" against at certain restaurants in Trinidad, to the point where one place was seating black patrons by the door!And we all know of the colour discrimination that caused a controversy with clubs like Base and Coconuts.Oh, and I have also read of locals being discriminated against at an internationally brand name hotel in Tobago.

Karabana said...

Sharika not Shakira, ok, thanks y'all, understand. (I couldn't see Michael Caine and Shakira, I mean, that'd be pulling a Julia Roberts & Lyell Lovett. )
*shudder*
Prettidolli, no worries, you say it, I meant that seriously, gotta luv ya! I respect ppl who say their truth, I'm the same. The whole black man treating their sistas bad thing is so touchy, so when you brought it up, I knew it'd be interesting hearing what y'all have to say...
"There are almost NO role models who are not white up here.." HH, you're in London? If so, that's surprising, bc the impression it gives off to those outside the UK is that that city is multicultural.
Saucyd, I can just imagine what you hear ("I did not marry a black man, which has it's own set of issues in this colour biased/obsessed Trinidad and Tobago")... I can't say the majority of the time I hear anything, to my face that is, re my mixed skin colour marriage... but I know it's bc we're in TO.
The Greater Toronto area (2.5+ million) is rated the most multicultural in the world.
The 1 time I can't forget was this year at a comedy show, one comic brought up this black women w white men thing, & vice versa, how they (whites) taking away the sistas & brothas, which caused the black couple right next to us to cheer, hoot & holler, & applaud more loudly than they did all night, in agreement that uh huh, it's so wrong, sticking it to me, who dares to take away a brotha.

Hottie Hottie said...

Dolli girl, I does have dem running all how cuz they KNOW they come rong with no shit. Ispice, yuh see hwo de bacchanal does tart up easy easy. Like Mani smell the rat boy. He nowhere around!

saucydiva said...

I now see Dolli edit my post and put een Jean and Dinah..LOL.

Hottie Hottie said...

Sauce - I was just wondering if he woulda be able to handle the dramas. I never personally experienced any of that blatant racism you speaking about but certainly our society is race and class conscious. You only have to listen to comments like "good hair" and "throwing away yuh colour" to know that. But I guess I may not be at the brunt of it because I'm mixed. I know some stores does move funny when yuh enter they doors but I think at the end of the day is whether yuh have money or not. Hmmm... tell me more Sauce.

Karabana - that's the image they give. Quick, name one well known English person who's always in the media and is not white. It's not openly racist, but the diversity it has is NOT a conscious choice. Right now there's a huge debate raging about immigrants in the country draining the resources. The funny thing is, if you're an immigrant you have no recourse to public funds or assistance so you have to get your ass up and work! And the vast majority of these immigrants come from the former colonies, the wealth from which the country was built.

Hottie Hottie said...

Ah remove the comment moderation for a lil while as it will take meh a while to get home and online and thing. Allyuh knock allyuh self out. And play nice!

Icahwait* said...

WOW,look what a few hours do.

I don't understand what man want again, they could have the pretties woman in the world and they still gone astray. stuepseee. She don't deserve that nah.

Dear Saucy, my husband white too he from here (uk) though. I got called a 'ho' one carnival mon night st James for being with him. He got made fun of in Hilo down by west mall (of all places) once too. Imagine, grocery shopping with my family, son and mother included. I was NOT impressed!
Typical make fun of the tourists ting nah. (I will be lying if I didn't admit that I guilty of it too eh, nevermind)

We were just friends at first then it just turned you know, I wouldn't choose white as a preference.
I with Hottie on the redman scene. Hit the nail on the head. But if you nice you nice, dark, indian, chinese mixup whatever, I done them all. And personally I can't take too many men in Trini seriously nah. it have too much to go around.

I agree with island spice though, everybody in Trini, in the world for that matter should just be mixed up. its beautiful.

and I hope I see some of them models from Tribe on the road. I was deadin lookin at them pics.
Anyway I am a married woman yes, let go see if I could fulfill some of them marital duties before I head off to Wushu tonight. ;-)

Icahwait* said...

Ashely Cole of the top of my head but I know what you mean.
Put the magazines down girl they addictive too bad. This country flipping obsessed with celebrity. The reality shows out of hand.

Icahwait* said...

One last thing, there are plenty things I miss about Trini men, I'm sure Hottie could relate.
As sickening as it gets sometimes.

saucydiva said...

Hottie girl I have stories, like even when it comes to prep school and primary school and doh talk about High school!Yuh know it have certain principals who does choose their students from S.E.A./Common Entrance based on name? Yes girl, one little girl had her heart set on going to a "prestige school" only to pass for her 3rd choice when her classmate with lower scores than her passed for the same "prestige school", guess what THAT classmate had the right "name"!When I was going to high school, there were girls of the lighter complexion who were pulled from my "black" prestige school and sent to Providence, and no offense to Providence eh but the school did not even offer A'levels at the time!!!!We used to joke it was the "white people junior sec".

Then there are the girls who bleach their skin, that is a big thing here now! When you go to Pennywise there are a variety of skin bleaching products.I guess when they see all the popular fellas in Trinidad with women of a certain look on their arm they aspire to that as well.When last you see the prince of Tort and Spain with a black woman?

You know what one fella tell me, black women are too much work.Oh how when he only want a girl for sex, he can get that easy with women of a certain race/colour but with black women you have to carry them out a date, romance them and tell them you love them before you can get some :S

saucydiva said...

icahwait that is SO true, well the part about being looked at as a "ho" when they see you with a white man in Trini and I can imagine how bad it is when is Carnival. Like they think you could not possibly be the man wife so you have to be a prostitute! steups.

Oh by the way I DO have to say that not all black men in Trinidad are worthles, there are many cool, hardworking fellas who know how to treat their women good (just as there are fellas from all races who treat their women badly).Unfortunately the good ones are those who get married young and break plenty hearts.

hear nah, if allyuh want to see celebrity obsesion check out www.perezhilton.com and www.gofugyourself.com :D

Prettidolli said...

"There are almost NO role models who are not white up here.." HH, you're in London? If so, that's surprising, bc the impression it gives off to those outside the UK is that that city is multicultural.

Kool deal Karabana...Is no worries atarll. Hottie is funny yuh talk 'bout de UK media, b/c when I was small and first visited there I was so happy to see so many mixed chirren all about and in de papers. I showed meh nanny, cuz' I was glad to see folks who looked anything like me. She thought it was cute. I love de UK b/c of de multiculturalism!

@Island Spice....The best loving an tender care i ever get is from a 'white' guy. And @ de quickie. LOLOLOL. I hope yuh meeting went well chica. Is beautiful what yuh said about de "mix up", 'cuz it's so very true! Dem white fellahs rhel tender eh? Imagine, it Carnival 2006 and a white fella in TRIBE saw me jumping up and at de rest 'tap he tek orf meh high heel shoe and rub up meh yampee foot? People deh watching meh like is how dis wretch get sweet white man like he fuh rub up she footside? De rubdong did feel so good I did deh grinning chile. Den he give meh ah kiss pon meh cheek, bring meh some ice cream, and walk away. Ladies, doh be scurrrred!
Hello-wah!

Saucy, hol' yuh nice hubby in de road and POOCH BACK pon he wid reckless abandon! Doh be shame. Nice woman like u? I seen yuh pics in yuh mas finery. Steups..eheh? Show 'em wha yuh wukking with. I go hol' me belly and well and laff! And LOLOLOLOLLLLLLLLL @ "If yuh ain't red yuh dead."

Both Beyonce and Tyra does buy dey hair by de "pong" anywayz...

De prince of Tort o' Spain should be de prince o' FOHRT and PAIN. Ah tyad ah de mayn yea!

She's a ho alright...a rhel H.O.! ;)

Karabana said...

Icahwait*, yes, mixed up *is* beautiful, all us mix up ppl are what the world should be.
Prettidolli, love, love, love, love it!!!!!!!!!!! Who *was* that sweet foot man????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hottie Hottie said...

Yes Dolli, I have plenty mix up chirren up here. But you know the VAST MAJORITY of the mix is white woman and black man. I was glad to see so many mix chirren up here - until I realise half of them half a serious complex and the other half does play they white. Hmmm... how that sounding like convent so? And Saucy, as for that convent scene, say no more. I right there with you. Somebody calll yuh a ho because yuh was with yuh husband?! But what de - if t wasn't for them white man HALF ah we wouldn't be here! I does always say, I kyah talk no race talk cuz I will be badtalking myself. De AMOUNT ah different race in me and meh family. Hmm!

Prettidolli said...

"My husband white too"....

Icyanwait, u GO girl! Is like dis is an epidemic? Lemme find out I need fuh turn in meh ole, big belly, hardback, ruff dry bundle blackchinee mayn fuh ah refund eh? :p I'm kidding eh! But seriously, after I had previously met him he walked up to me and TOLD me I'd be his lady and I hit he HARD and GOOD one time wid meh clutch purse. He ent de boss ah me! B/c he was so much older and accomplished, folks couldn't believe I'd done that. They still don't get over some of the stuff I say. He's the first dark man I've ever dated. It was pure white and redman in de place cuz' dais all I could and still attract, it wasn't necessarily a preference. Dark man doh check fuh meh atarlll and I doh keh.
At first he tried to behave like he uknowwhat didn't 'tink b/c women would get on ANYHOW (and I mean ANY) fuh de money. It took a young ting like me fuh teach he tuh have manners..Go ketch ah guess and figure!

Karabana, de fellah was so nice, he and he friends were Brits. I saw him later during las lap when I was wining up btwn 2 oddah white fellahs (LOL!) and he hug meh and was pulling meh telling meh goodbye cuz' he leffing Ash Wednesday. Dis white gyul was standing dey bubbling in front ah he, well and vex cuz' he nah bidness wid she. He PUSH 'WAY de poor gyel. :o Freedom of choice... whatatingboiiii!

Hottie Hottie said...

But Dolli, yuh know, dais true. Black man doh really like me so yuh know. Plenty Indian. Plenty Spanish. Them white man like they fraid meh. They does watch and turn 'way fas' fas'. It had a lil Austrian fella in meh lat wuk did like meh bad, bad. I come and LEAVE the wuk and up to now he kyah make a proper move!

Alexia said...

Funny story with me...I come from a mix race (mum black, my dad white) but my sisters and brothers took from my dad side, and I took the black from my mother (I look fair/light skin whatever they call it.)

While I was growing up ppl always thought I was adopted when they see me with my sisters and brothers, (I have 2 sisters & 2 brothers) if they saw us out as a family the ignorant ones thought my mother was always my father Nanny. Cause my dad was a foreigner overseeing the company. You know ex-pat they call them.

There r times I often wish I was not black growing up, I always felt like an outsider. So needless to say I was more pampered and spoiled and I was the last one. But later on because of my mother I realized black is beautiful this motto I kept repeating in my head over and over. And living in the US you have to be strong about your color.

Now I have a black step-dad so I feel complete. This may sound dumb, but when we go out as a family ppl stare at my sisters and brothers like they are the outsiders. I always laugh cause I tell them payback is a bitch. All in good fun! I am laughing to myself as I write. I miss them they are still living in Trinidad and soing very well for themselves.

Prettidolli said...

"But you know the VAST MAJORITY of the mix is white woman and black man. I was glad to see so many mix chirren up here - until I realise half of them half a serious complex and the other half does play they white."

Yuh done know..So SAD and TRUE. I tell yuh, dey doh want dey own nah? Anybody else's but DEY OWN! Dais why yuh have ooman like Lil' Kim wid picky roots and silky straight hair weave up tight to dey poor scalps! Whitemanindianchineewhosoevah, dem worship and LOVE up dey OWN ooman wid or widout success! When these men does go outside dey race, they picking ONLY de very best! Why do Black men NOT hold to this standard? I've seen great PROFESSIONAL Black men with Mary O'Flagherty de cleaning and washerwoman at gala events. WTF? Why stoop so low juss tuh seh yuh have white ooman? N*gga please...HAVE SOME DIGNITY! Even DeNiro does have he standards. It would be a COLE day in hell before yuh see Sir Branson with Florence who did wuk fuh George Jefferson. Never that! Halle gyul, who VEX LOSS!

Ah too luv up meh Chrini, cuz' I feel everyone dey mix...Pitch Black or even light bright damn near White! ;) And if dey watch yuh like ah prostitute when yuh wid hubby, whisper in dey ear dat hubby does love it when he missus does swing from de chandelier wearing yuh bess pair ah forrrrrk meh pumps. Dey too DAMN FASS! Ah done................

saucydiva said...

Dolli is not an epidemic I think now people starting to see beyond colour and looking at the PERSON. We women have become more demanding of our Goddessness (dah is ah word?) and we want men to treat us as such ...well lemme only speak for mehself! Once the man fit the bill I doh really cater if he blue,purple or green. I eh cutting off meh nose to spite meh face and only dating black men because I "loyal" to meh race when dey eh doing nuttin for meh..sorry, lemme sample all it have to offer :D

Ahm I mean I already married so I done sampling :D

And for allyh yuh who single enjoy it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Trust meh when I say dat cause I does miss meh wild days sometimes :D

Did I ever tell allyuh Shaggy (sweet red man that he is) signed my breast at Boys Scouts one Carnival? I was backstage and ask the man for an authograph, me eh know what get into meh but I pull aside meh LOW CUT top and let him sign meh right boob :D

I eh wash that boob for days after LOL ...ah gone, I going and check on meh boots people!!!!

Hottie Hottie said...

So Alexia, you's a next castaway then!

Dolli, yuh eh betting yuh mad no ass yes! I remember this one time (in band camp)just kidding! But once I was in Grenada walking with this friend of mine who was white. It's the only time I've ever experienced true racism. So we're walking, when this Rasta man starts walking behind us and cussing and threatening my friend. Oh how he go kick him in his flat ass etc etc. I feeling SO SHAME. THEN, he takes a turn in MY ass, about how I feel because I red black man not good enough for me. Needless to say the Rastaman was black. And he was right, with that kind og behaviour he DAMN WELL wasn't good enough for me!

Hottie Hottie said...

Shaggy sign yuh breast girl!? Well yes! Hubby wasn't dey though

saucydiva said...

No girl that was long before hubby came on the scenes....I was single and loving it until I meet he......he lucky he tame meh :D

Hottie Hottie said...

LOL! Girl, I wonder if it have any could tame me!

law said...

You all raised very valid points. I know a lot of people would not agree with what you are saying, but it's true. I was lucky and found a black Panamanian who loves the dirt I walk on. Listen, if yuh find ah white man and de man treating yuh like ah queen, go for it. Who doh like it, could go to hell, dem aint living wid you. Black, strong, independent, successful, black women does go through so much shit with black men. And just because de woman wants to be treated with respect. And what does piss me off is when these same dam men leave a lovely, educated, independent black women and pick up low-life, dumb-ass trash of another race.

A lot of those white dudes are smart -- when dem stepping out of their race dey looking for de best of another race -- so best believe that black woman is going to be pretty and most times well educated and smart. I wish de brothers were that smart.

And yes, Trini has a lot of color issues that still going on to this day. I may not live in Trinidad, but ah hear the stories from family.

Hottie Hottie said...

True talk law. But hear nuh, is where allyuh meeting dese fyoin men!!!!!!? Is all kinda ole saltfish trying to land in my pot.

law said...

HE SIGN YUH BREAST!!!!!!!! Sauce, yuh good yes!

Hottie Hottie said...

Look at Dwight York. Of all the women in the world to pick up with he picked Jordan! Jordan yuh know. And that is back in the days when Jordan was trash. She improve a lot now since they son born sick etc etc but back then Jordan was like a Charlotte Street, stand behind the heap a cabbage with yuh foot cock out ho. Every body in the football side brush she and you end up with that?! At least they didn't get married butI wouldn't have put it past him. Then he woulda play he bringing sh edown her and parading she in front ah we and talking about foreign is "bether"

saucydiva said...

I now remember something,my hubby does get caught up in this "race" divide in Trinidad too. When he is among non-black folks, they feel they could make all kinds of racist comments and disparaging remarks about black people in front of him because he is "one of them". That does bother him because he knows what some people really think of a black woman like me. And I say "black" woman even though my grand father was of Spanish descent,to me as long as yuh not white yuh "black" because that is how the rest of the world sees us. I know it is a culture shock for many of the "local whites" who venture overseas for the first time for people to think they are Hispanic or black when in Trinidad they could "pass for white".

Icahwait* said...

I like myself you hear, alot of black, carib and gypsy spaniards and my cousins chinese. Now that is mix. I feel like you'll only get that amt of mix up in sweet Trini.

Big Up to Saucy for Shaggy Autograph!

I didn't choose who I fell in love with nah, who does? He's like 10yrs older than me as well. We cool and we's always crack jokes about our race/colour and stuff and is no scene. I don't like this politically correct B.S. Our son is a dead split between us, and he gets it, no issues there.

But I don't know if you'll trying to say tender as in romantic and shit? Cause I don't have one of them kind

Icahwait* said...

Like Hottie you want a hook up girl.
Wham you didn't like the Aussie or wha? You coulda make your move- yuh stickin.

Somebody hook up Hottie please.

Hottie Hottie said...

Saucy, my moms does get that too. Indian does bad talk black people with she and black people does bad talk Indian with she. And the thing is, dem is the two ting she have the LEAST mix in. Me, everybody does try to pull me in in dey nonsense when they ready. The strange thing is, I always lucky with Indian women as friends - but Indian woman like they doh like meh! Well, plenty black woman eh like meh either. In fact, on the whole, it have plenty woman doh like meh!!!! LOL! Anyway, I doh cater with this "how the rest of the world sees us" talk. As far as I am concerned I mix. I not denying part of myself or my history to make anybody feel more comfortable.

Hottie Hottie said...

icah wait, I agree. Good treatment does come in all forms adn races. I see some white man put down some rough treatment of tehy women in public up here arready. Yuh TALK bout feel shame for the woman and dem?!

Hottie Hottie said...

icahwait, de LAST thing I need in my life now is a next man. I eh have no man and still I tired, the amount ah dem does still be buddering meh ass. Of course, if anybody have anyone EXTRA FINE in mind well, they could pass them my way. Oh God. I feeling drained just CONTEMPLATINIG getting involved with anybody now.

saucydiva said...

But Hottie how do you define "mix" to people who do not understand the concept ? My grand father was Spanish, my Grand mother is black.My mother has the look of a "mixed" person with the long curly hair(well it short now),lighter complexion, high cheekbones and eyes like a "chinee" since I figure my grandfather had some Amerindian in him (he is Venezuelan). When my mother was in Miami everyone spoke Spanish to her!Of course it also had to do with the fact that her last name is of Spanish pronunciation. :D

When you look at me you see a black person though.I am brown in complexion (some people say "red"),I have jet black hair that is naturally thick and long, I have my mother's eyes and unless I wear my hair long (people say I look like an Amerindain or I have Chinese in me when I do)you don't see that I am "mixed". So I am not going to launch into an explanation to say "my Grandfather was Spanish" when people looking at me and saying "which part? you doh look so!".

And when you have to fill out a form and put your "race" what boxes do you tick ? Maybe we should just have a box to tick that says "Trini" and people will understand that is a whole Callaloo race here, because everybody I know mix up somehow :D

Hottie Hottie said...

Girl, I understand. I does tick Other, to ass with anybody who find I doh fit into their concept of mixed. Even if you have every characteristics of one race, as long as yuh ancentry is more than one, then yuh mixed. When I wear my hair pulled back, I's a Spanish, curly and out, a Douglas or Mulatto, Relaxed, a mix thing. Funny thing is, when my hair was relaxed, Foreigners thought I was Indian! Venezuelans think I'm Indian or Brazilian. People back home always used to be pulling my hair. I remember being in the line in McDonald's once and two women behind me talking about somebody hair. One saying it natural the other saying no it relaxed. Is only after I realise is me they talking about! They ended the discussion by saying I mix but with Negro blood - PLENTY Negro blood as one felt it was necessary to say. Is like I wasn't even there! On the other hand, I had an Indian coworker who asked me once why black people does put so much "bubbles" in they children head. When I tell she I doh know because I doh know nobody who does do that she watch me and laugh and I say, "Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realise you were an Indian." She lucky I didn't box she in she two big eye. There's a programme up here called "Who do you think you are" where they trace people's background. This guy - a black guy, didn't look mixed at all - did his. When they traced his DNA etc it went back to some remote German village. In fact, his black ancestry was so small as to be considered almost "negligable." The man was so dissappointed. The thing is, people's perception of you is dependent on their mentality and their experiences. I not letting nobody with they issues and insecurities dictate who I am.

Hottie Hottie said...

The thing is, at the end of the day, bad treatment and good treatment is 3/4 common sense and 1/4 luck. Maybe Halle Berry just keep picking shit?! There are women who repeat cycles of abuse of all races. I mean, Halle Berry get horn yes. But so did Angelina Jolie and Elizabeth Hurley. Nicole Kidman get pitch to the curb. Maybe the thing is that alot of people of colour - whether black, mixed, Indian or latino - have personal hang ups because of colonisation and our societies being stratified by race etc. When two people of the same background come together it can either be a source of support and understanding or, a hindrance and a problem. I know some black men say white women are less complicated - maybe it's because with them it's a case of only one person bringing their hang ups into the relationship? I don't know. The thing is, I have no problem with people dating/marrying outside their race. How can I! But for the right reasons. And I think one of our problems as a society is that when there's a problem the first thing we do is cry race, instead of looking to see what the other possible causes are. And THAT is one thing white people DON'T do.

Karabana said...

I think it's easier to define mix when your skin colour is not very strongly black or white (I'll continue with them, what we've been using as examples). We tend to get called either black or white based on skin colour, then after more observation, looking at hair & eyes, do ppl sometimes believe you are mixed. It's when you're tan or moca that ppl believe the mix definition more.
My skin colour is white - my Dad is Trini which = mixed of course. His mix from way back is Portuguese, St. Lucian & British. My Mom is French Canadian, traced from all the way back.
No one has ever correctly guessed my race... I get mainly Italian, Greek, Portuguese (which is closest), & just the other day, Egyptian.
But I don't mind at all, who would guess right?? Actually, it gives me an opportunity to educate ppl, tell them no, you're not going to have any luck speaking to me in Italian, bc I'm not, I'm ______I fill in the blank________. Then I hear, "I never would have guessed!"
But like I said earlier, it's easier here in Toronto to be mixed, have a mixed marriage, & have mixed kids.
I wish it was like that in T'dad & London... well, we always have hope, right?

Alexia said...

Hottie all good points....at the end of the day it does come down to color.

My brother girlfriend is black & big breasted. I mention on Saucy blog when we went to collect our costume from tribe she did not get the best of treatment. And it saddens me that in trinidad that u can be discriminated by your own ppl cause u do not have the right color! I view myself as black even though I am bi-racial..zebra according to my cousin..when someone ask what is your color I always respond to them as black.

Cause living in the US they don't see you as light skin, they see you black and ppl in trinidad need to realize that, so I really don't know why everyting has to come down to color in Trinidad...I try not to see color in ppl cause I have experience enough of the jokes and humilation growing up in my own country. My sisters & brothers may me different but I am glad they treat ppl with respect, they do get special treatment but they never use or take advantage of it.

saucydiva said...

Hottie you made a very good point about bringing "hang ups" into the relationship.You hit the nail on the head with that one!That's why from MY experiences the black men I have dated who were young,educated and succesful wanted women who could meet them on the same level (for instance one said he would never date a hairdresser) but they also wanted a woman they could control and who fit THEIR idea of the perfect woman.

The perfect woman had nothing to do with the personality or qualities of the person but all about helping to create the illusion that the man has "arrived".Imagine I had guys telling me they don't like their woman with short hair (read picky head), or that they don't like my hair braided because it looked too "ghetto",or that they liked me because I could speak properly, dress well that the don't want their woman to get "fat" or that I had friends who were "white" or that I knew the "right" people and went to the "right" places :S. At the end of the day I want someone to like me for ME.

To me it was quite refreshing to go out with my husband, when we first met.His goals and ideologies are very different from any of the guys that I dated before and that had so much to do with how he was brought up and his background. Now I am not saying all the guys that I met are like what I described, but I as well have my "hang ups" about the person I was looking for to complement me and I guess maybe I kept picking the "wrong guys" in that aspect.But I was not about to "settle" and compromise my ideals for a man, hence the reason that I ended up looking outside of my race to find what I was looking for.

Karabana said...

"...when there's a problem the first thing we do is cry race, instead of looking to see what the other possible causes are."
True, true, true, it's a lame out!!!!!!

"And THAT is one thing white people DON'T do." (HH)
Except when they shout discrimination bc they didn't get a job bc it went to a visible minority.

Hottie Hottie said...

Good points all!

Alexia - As far as Americans are concerned everybody inferior to them so they will be the LAST people I allowing to categorise me. People could say what they want, it's not changing what I think about myself.

Saucy - I know I said earlier that black men don't like me but there's a flip side. You have those that like me just because of my "colour" or my "hair". Imagine I grew up with and eventually went around with a guy and although we cared alot about each other it could never work out. After years of off again/on again and heartache he revealed to me that he had a problem with me being "red" and so intelligent and he always felt inferior to me!!!! I don't think I ever forgave him for not knowing me better and being so shallow.

Karabana - that's a WHOLE other story! Hire me on merit, not race. Nice pic btw...

Karabana said...

What we get is a lot of this in job postings "__PC company___ is an equal opportunities employer and encourages applications from members of designated groups."
&
"As an equal opportunity employer, we encourage individuals from a diversity of backgrounds to apply."

Many companies, bc they have quotas, actually state they actively encourage applications from all equity seeking groups: gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, disabled, and Native.

So the white man need not apply.

Hottie Hottie said...

We have that here too. You have to show that you have an Equal Opportunities office statement etc. But I don't think they have a quota. I think you just have to ensure that race is not the reason why you are hiring or not hiring someone. Doh really know HOW yuh doing that. Deciding to hire someone is to an extent subjective isn't it.

Karabana said...

"...hence the reason that I ended up looking outside of my race to find what I was looking for." (SD)
Yeah, if you've had bad experiences w men of a certain race, I guess it makes sense to look outside that. I didn't. I was in serious relationships with mainly white skin men, variety of backgrounds, German, Italian, Irish, French, Welsh... I was never treated poorly by any of them that made me feel ok, enough white guys, gotta find me a black guy... LOL! But seriously. It just so happened that the man I married has black skin.

Karabana said...

This is such a coincidence, just read this in a magazine at the gym:
"Being thought of as a 'beautiful woman' has spared me nothing in life - no heartache, no troubles. Beauty is essentially meaningless." - Halle Berry

katrice said...

Interesting conversation. I actually sat here and read every comment and found it to be educational. My husband is a mix-up black Trini and I am a mix-up black American from Louisiana. I never really dated much because of my religious oppression -- I mean, upbringing -- and we married very young. I never dated outside my race, so I have no first-hand experience on how other races treat black women.

What I do notice from this conversation is that we who are black seem to have the same hang-ups and troubles all over the world. Here, we have enough oppression from white society, add to that the oppression we have within our own race. There used to be a thing here called the brown paper bag test. If you're lighter than the bag, you can pass in society. Even today, lighter skin and straighter hair seems to get a person further.

My sister and I have different fathers and she is darker. She is beautiful, intelligent and ambitious. She dates a white man. I have no problem with that. Except that I fear that she seeks out a white man because she is uncomfortable with her own blackness. That, I have a problem with. I really want her to see her own value.

I agree with all who advocate a beautiful mixed world. And best of luck to Ms. Berry and her sexy lover who happens to be white.

saucydiva said...

Hottie girl I see this post is still going strong!Katrice,I understand what you are saying in respect to your sister and that is the first I heard of the brown paper bag test...I think I am the same colour as the brown paper bag :D

Hottie Hottie said...

I heard about the brown paper bag test. Amazing what people do to each other eh.

saucydiva said...

Aye Dolli both Tyra and Beyonce wear lace front wigs :D

I can't stand Tyra Banks, give me Naomi Campbell anyday. At least she is straight up bitch and not trying to be the next Oprah with FAKE written all over her fivehead.

Hottie Hottie said...

What is a lace front wig?! The thing is, people make a big deal about them wearing wigs when almost ALL celebrities do it. Even Jennifer Aniston whose hair at one time was incredibly famous. You know, I like Naomi too, although I sholdn't because she only like to lash. But I eh frighten. The day will come when she will hit the wrong person and get de cut arse of she life.

Fivehead. Well yes...

saucydiva said...

Hottie the lace front is some EXPENSIVE wig that is made to fit your head using human hair, you can part it or put it up in a pony tail etc etc.The front and/or back has some clear net/lace that is glued to your forehead so it looks like a natural hairline, you can even get the wig with BABY HAIR!!. Apparently that is what Tyra and Beyonce wears when you thinking is weave and how they can change their hairstyles so fast.To me it just looks like weave.

http://www.mylacefrontwig.com/

http://customlacefrontwigs.info/

Hottie Hottie said...

But what de... I thought was weave oui!

saucydiva said...

Me too, but I always used to wonder how Beyonce used to change up her hair so fast, if she going to an awards she walking down the red carpet with one hairstyle and then she performing on stage with another. The lengths people does go for lonnnnnng hair.

tracy said...

Hi I was born in Guyana, so we have similiar issues and I grew up in America. Several things I would like to point out.

1. Often the black men do not pick trashy white women. Many times the worst/sluttiest white women go after them because thier white men would not want them. Then they pick the best black men they can find because they feel that since they are white they can do that.

So sometimes you cannot blame black men and wonder why they pick the worst of other races. The black men just see free and easy sex.

2. As to white men, many where I live, would date a black woman on thier level whatever level that may be. Sometimes they are looking for assistance (money) from black women.

Other times they may be into freaky kinky things and having a black woman adds extra spice.They may force her to do kinky sexual things.

In the end some black/white relationships can survive and just involve love.